{"id":168,"date":"2009-02-16T19:34:44","date_gmt":"2009-02-17T04:34:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/?page_id=168"},"modified":"2009-02-28T17:37:05","modified_gmt":"2009-03-01T02:37:05","slug":"multiple-mounts","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/?page_id=168","title":{"rendered":"Multiple Mounts"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2>Rocky Mountain Memories and 3D Stereo &#8211; 2000<\/h2>\n<p>Medium format stereo (MF3D) <a href=\"http:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/80x132twosizes.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-187 alignright\" title=\"50x50 and 50x40 Cardboard mounts\" src=\"http:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/80x132twosizes-300x199.jpg\" alt=\"50x50 and 50x40 mounts\" width=\"300\" height=\"199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/80x132twosizes-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/80x132twosizes-150x99.jpg 150w, https:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/80x132twosizes.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>slides in North America have commonly been mounted in dual-aperture, fold-over cardboard mounts with external dimensions of 80x132mm.\u00a0 These are thin, relatively inexpensive and available with several aperture dimensions.\u00a0 Common apertures are (WxH in mm)<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>50&#215;50<\/li>\n<li>50&#215;40<\/li>\n<li>40&#215;50<\/li>\n<li>52&#215;24<\/li>\n<li>52&#215;46<br \/>\n(rare, but sometimes available)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The mounts are available in differing weights and in black or white cardboard.\u00a0 The aperture choices provide cropping and composition choices as well as supporting those users of 645 cameras.\u00a0 Commercial viewers (like the King Inn and the Saturn) and custom viewers were designed around this mount dimension.\u00a0 None of these viewers are still manufactured, but the 80&#215;132 format is alive and well.<\/p>\n<h2>3D World &#8211; 2004<\/h2>\n<p>At the 2004 NSA convention in Portland, I first saw the 3D World products.\u00a0 They had their coin-operated sequential-viewer, a prototype of what would become the TL120-1 camera, a steal-the-light viewer, sample slides, and boxes of plastic slide mounts.\u00a0 The slide mounts were very expensive but I bought a couple of them to see what they were like.<\/p>\n<p>The original 3D World mounts were thicker and larger than the cardboard mounts to which I was accustomed.\u00a0 They were designed for use in the 3D World viewers and could not be used in the King In or Saturn viewer.\u00a0 These first edition mounts were about 4mm thick and had 54mm square apertures spaced at 65mm.\u00a0 This effectively put the stereo window of every image at infinity.\u00a0 Everything in every image was forced in front of the window and window violations were unavoidable.\u00a0 The mount halves were held together very poorly by sets of troughs and grooves.\u00a0 It was quite easy to say, \u201cThese mounts aren&#8217;t worth plastic it takes to make them nor the postage required to obtain them.\u201d\u00a0 Should you come across any of them, please destroy them.<\/p>\n<h2>3D World &#8211; 2006<\/h2>\n<p>Sam Smith worked with 3D World to correct some of the deficiencies in their mounts and sometime in 2006 they\u00a0 released a second edition.\u00a0 These had the same same outer dimensions (80x140mm), but were only 2.8mm thick and had smaller apertures (52mm) spaced at 62mm.\u00a0 These new mounts were held together with six 1.8mm pins\/holes molded into the halves.\u00a0 They had a white writing-label, four adhesive film-tabs inside, and were plainly marked along the top, \u201cRevised by Sam Smith\u201d and between the apertures with \u201c62\u201d.\u00a0 These were a <em>huge<\/em> improvement over the original mounts and, with them, precision mounting was possible.<\/p>\n<p>Two fundamental differences between the 80x132mm cardboard mounts and the 80x140mm plastic mounts are the vertical placement of the apertures, and the symmetry of the &#8220;front&#8221; and the &#8220;back&#8221;.\u00a0 The apertures on the plastic mounts are vertically centered and (in theory) the same size on the front and the back halves.\u00a0 The apertures on the cardboard mounts are located 11mm below the center-line and the round-corner apertures on the front-half are slightly smaller than the square-cornered openings on the back-half.\u00a0 In both of these characteristics I prefer those of the cardboard mounts.<\/p>\n<h2>3D World &#8211; 2008<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/3dworld2nd1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-195\" title=\"Later generation 3D World mount\" src=\"http:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/3dworld2nd1-300x199.jpg\" alt=\"3dworld2nd1\" width=\"300\" height=\"199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/3dworld2nd1-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/3dworld2nd1-150x99.jpg 150w, https:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/3dworld2nd1.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Late in 2008, I had the opportunity to see some images mounting in 80x140mm mounts I didn&#8217;t recognize.\u00a0 They were similar to, but a bit different from, the 3D World \u201cSam Smith\u201d mounts.\u00a0 A brief note to George Themelis confirmed these were likely a newer model mount from 3D World and he soon had a sample in my hands.<\/p>\n<p>These mounts are still 2.8mm thick but have 53mm apertures spaced at 62mm.\u00a0 There are still six pins\/holes molded into the halves, but the pins are 2.4mm in diameter and look more substantial.\u00a0 The mounts carry no markings but do have a noticeable notch in the middle of one long edge, four adhesive film-tabs inside, and a white writing-label.\u00a0 The 53mm apertures provide a very large image in the viewer, but offer very little wiggle room when mounting.\u00a0 These mounts also have <em>54mm <\/em>openings on the half of the mount with the adhesive tabs.\u00a0 It is not clear if this is by design or by oversight, but it does mean that images in these mounts should be mounted such that the pin-half of the mount (with the 53mm apertures) is the front.<\/p>\n<h2>Holga<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/holga.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-193\" title=\"Holga's square aperture mount\" src=\"http:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/holga-150x100.jpg\" alt=\"holga\" width=\"150\" height=\"100\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/holga-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/holga-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/holga.jpg 640w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a>If this weren&#8217;t enough, in 2008 Holga released two plastic mounts to accompany their two new stereo cameras.\u00a0\u00a0 Thankfully, Holga did not introduce <em>another<\/em> mount size, but made theirs 80x140mm.\u00a0 Holga&#8217;s mounts are offered with two different aperture sizes:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>52&#215;52<\/li>\n<li>52&#215;23<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Both of these models are 3.3mm thick, and are held together with six 2mm pins in addition to a trough &amp;\u00a0 groove arrangement. \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The square apertures are spaced at 65mm and the mounts are marked &#8220;HOLGA\u00a0 3DSM-120&#8221;.\u00a0 The panoramic apertures are spaced at 66mm and the mounts are marked &#8220;HOLGA 3DSM-135&#8221;. While similar in external appearance to the new 3D World mounts, they are fundamentally flawed.\u00a0 Even if the moldings were accurately made (which they are not), Holga has recreated the design defects of the first-edition 3D World mounts.\u00a0 The spacing of the apertures means that anything mounted in them will be forced in front of the stereo window.\u00a0 It will be impossible to do precision mounting in the the Holga mounts and they are <em>not<\/em> recommended.<\/p>\n<h2>Suggestions<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Don&#8217;t use the Holga mounts.<\/li>\n<li>Dont use the first generation 3D World mounts.<\/li>\n<li>Choose a mount which will fit the viewer used by your intended audience.<\/li>\n<li>If you use a Sputnik or other camera which leaks light or otherwise requires heavy masking, use a mount which has 50mm apertures.<\/li>\n<li>Check your mounts&#8217; apertures.\u00a0 If they are not exactly the same size in both halves, put the smaller opening in front.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rocky Mountain Memories and 3D Stereo &#8211; 2000 Medium format stereo (MF3D) slides in North America have commonly been mounted in dual-aperture, fold-over cardboard mounts with external dimensions of 80x132mm.\u00a0 These are thin, relatively inexpensive and available with several aperture dimensions.\u00a0 Common apertures are (WxH in mm) 50&#215;50 50&#215;40 40&#215;50 52&#215;24 52&#215;46 (rare, but sometimes [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/168"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=168"}],"version-history":[{"count":14,"href":"https:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/168\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":200,"href":"https:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/168\/revisions\/200"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stereo.thurstons.us\/content\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=168"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}